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Who’s No. 1? CBA vs. Holmdel

Posted in Uncategorized by mattmanley on November 23, 2010

As soon as Holmdel lost in the SCT, not only did we miss out on a potential classic final, but now I have to pick a No. 1 between an SCT champ that lost in the toughest section in N.J. and a state champion that beat one very good team (Chatham), two solid teams (Hopewell and Hightstown) and three okay teams.

I know most of the people clamoring for either side have some sort of bias, so as an independent observer, I’ll give you my take on the matter and you can cheer or applaud as you see fit.

In all honesty, I just don’t see how I can rank Holmdel ahead of CBA. I think a head-to-head game would have been a virtual toss-up, but if you’re judging by what actually did happen this season, CBA has the stronger resume. The Colts won the more difficult division, won the Conference Tournament without ever really being up against the wall and technically did not lose since Sept. 11. The only teams CBA did not beat were top 20 teams in the state – St. Joe’s Metuchen and Delbarton. If you switched CBA to Group III and Holmdel to Non-Public A, I feel pretty certain that CBA would have won a state title. Holmdel might have made the championship game, but I think that outcome is a lot more certain.

That’s why state championships – while they mean a lot to the school – don’t mean as much in regional rankings. In fact, you will probably see Holmdel ranked ahead of CBA in the state rankings. The Star Ledger doesn’t have the luxury of matching up all the teams on an even playing field. They have to rank them based on a significant degree of subjectivity, which is not easy, especially when you don’t see much of some of the teams. In my case, or Josh Newman’s case for that matter, we’re ranking a set of teams that ultimately participate in the same tournament just before the state playoffs. This year, CBA won that tournament and in being eliminated from the state tournament, technically did not lose. Holmdel, meanwhile, did lose to someone else in the conference.

I’m also not saying that winning the SCT automatically gets you the No. 1 ranking. Last year, Marlboro won the SCT but Toms River South won Group IV. If Raritan had won the SCT, I would have ranked Raritan No. 1 in the Shore, but since TR South won the same group in which the SCT champion lost, I gave the nod to the state champs, not the SCT champs. In Holmdel’s case, subjectivity does come into play. Non-Public A is tougher than Group III and because of that, CBA’s SCT holds up in the ranking.

A nice little Tournament of Champions would solve the matter, but how do you work that? Thanksgiving is this week, so the semis and finals wouldn’t be until almost December. Maybe you suck it up and do it. They’re playing a senior all-star game on Dec. 5, so they can play meaningful games as well. The Basketball TOC goes to March, which cuts into the spring practice season, so making basketball, wrestling, and other coaches wait a couple days isn’t a big deal.

I can understand the frustration on the Holmdel side. The Hornets have a case to be the No. 1 team in some ways and I think it’s possible that they may have been the best team this year. If hypothetical scenarios dictated the rankings, I might pull the trigger and put Holmdel No. 1. But the rankings have to reflect reality, and in reality, all we can say is that CBA’s 18-1-1 and SCT title stacks up and ultimately exceeds Holmdel’s 22-1 and Group III title.

I’ll be posting the final Top 20 in the next 24 hours and when it goes up, CBA will be the No. 1 team in the Shore.

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  1. Absolutely Agree said, on November 23, 2010 at 10:06 am

    You are absolutely correct CBA is the better team and should be ranked #1

  2. LOL said, on November 23, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    Lets see. Cba gags up a 2-0 lead at the half and loses 3-2 in pk’s. (not to mention probably one of the biggest choke jobs i’ve ever seen in a PK round). Holmdel wins states and beats a team, Chatham who had 19 shutous, and winning by scoring 2 goals in a 3 minute span with 13 minutes left (which shows guts and character). And one more note, Chatham beat Delbarton 1-0 this season and Delbarton beat CBA 3-1. Maybe I am stupid, but you do the math!!!!!!

  3. Holmdel Soccer said, on November 23, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    ima smack u matt. u no who this is.=]holmdel = #1 if u think otherwise ur a fool. G3 Champs>STCC

  4. LOL said, on November 23, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    Holmdel LOSES to Toms River North – their coach states ” we were not the better team” So you lost to a team that the coach admitted was a lesser team. CBA beat the crap outta them and they are the most direct comparison because they were in A-NORTH and Holmdel played in the minor league division of the Shore Conference. YOU PLAYED 1 A-TEAM and LOST.
    You won because of ONE player Metzger not the team, one player.
    Oh yeh, MAYBE YOU ARE STUPID, do the math again!

  5. Holmdel Soccer said, on November 23, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    last time i checked there was 12 Very talented seniors plus juniors. ur a TROLL. Holmdel all day.

  6. Holmdel Soccer said, on November 23, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    Subtract Metzgers goals and assists and tell me what the scores would be.
    0-0 for most of them, that is for sure.
    Holmdel – all day-tomorrow but not today!
    Thanks M.Manley for your dead on analysis.

  7. LOL said, on November 23, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Cool Story Bro! Stop hugging Metzgers nuts.

  8. LMAO said, on November 23, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    First of all IDIOT, we beat the crap out of Howell. They scored 2 meaningless late goals. YOU REALLY ARE AN IDIOT. ITS OBVIOUS YOU EITHER WENT TO CBA OR STILL GO.

  9. LMAO said, on November 23, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    2nd of all, Metzger the whole team? i believe a sophmore Zach Bond had 14 of his own, and Castiglia ties Metzger with 16. Holmdel Had 83 total goals. So 83- 16? I think thats 67 goals for Holmdel IDIOT. But you can think what u want. No one remembers a shore confernce titel. But we will bask in our State Sectional plaque and our State Championship plaque as well as our ring! HAHAHA maybe you can kiss it one day. Damn it feels good to be a state champion. Shore conference tho? Im sure no one out of the shore even knows what that is. STATE CHAMPS!!!! Lovin the rings!!!!!!!

  10. Absolutely Agree said, on November 23, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    You had an offsides goal and a metzger rocket.
    The second half, when you lost the wind against Howell they had 12 shots to your 1
    Please bask in the glory of the tiny tiny little pond and be happy you had Metzger. And for all my despise for Holmdel as LOL says, Metzger has earned the right to have his nuts hugged!
    Holmdel = GREAT TEAM – LITTLE POND

    • Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 5:29 am

      we scored 2 georgous goals (volley from AJ Castiglia and a rebound off a shot..Alex Castiglia)…and then Metzger scored a contestant for goal of the year by chipping Howells scrub goalie from 20 yds out and congrats howell u had more shots then us..u had a bs penalty called and a georgous call from ozcan….but u see…when one team scores 3 goals…and the other scores 2….the team with 2 loses…ftw pz

  11. Alejandro said, on November 23, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    GTFO This is Holmdel’s room. State Champs all day. ill kick the shit out of you CBA ****.

  12. lmao said, on November 23, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    And you, CBA ***, AS FOR YOUR A- NORTH DIVISION THAT WAS SO STRONG, HOW MAN EVEN MADE IT TO A SECTIONAL FINAL? YOU REALLY ARE A JEALOUS CLOWN AND EVERYONE WHO IS READING THIS KNOWS IT.

    • mattmanley said, on November 23, 2010 at 11:27 pm

      Wow, a lot to touch on. First of all, please show a little restraint with the words you use. I don’t mind a “shit” or a f-bomb here or there, but please no threats or homophobic language. Sirs Elton John or Ian McClellan could be reading.

      Whoever made the point about Chatham beating Delbarton, that’s a good one, one I should have at least mention. I don’t think it wins the argument, but it certainly strengthens it. It’s a tough one, because I’d love to see a smaller school finish No. 1, but I gotta go with the facts. A state title is tremendous, but there are six of them and CBA was playing in a different group than Holmdel and because of that, you can evaluate them differently.

      It sucks that they didn’t get a chance to settle this on the field, but as it is, we’ll just have to take a side and move on. I could cop out and rank them both No. 1, but come on. What do I look like?

      Some people actually argue that college football is great without a playoff because it adds to the debate about who should be playing for a title. That’s easy for someone without a vote to say. Deciding on the field is always better and unfortunately we won’t have that chance.

  13. LMAO said, on November 23, 2010 at 11:19 pm

    LMAO – ENJOY THE LITTLE POND – You are right Castiglia does deserve a lot of credit. Bottom line You are literally and figuratively NOT IN CBA’S LEAGUE!!

    • Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 5:25 am

      ur right….we r literally not in ur league and figuratively we are on another level…Maryland, Providence,Rhode Island,Caldwell, NYU,Manhattan, St. Peters,Rutgers V.S Fairfield, and wherever else scotty thompsen goes

      Holmdel > CBA

  14. LMAO said, on November 23, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    In A North it’s a little harder to make it through, it’s not like the Little League you play in.

    • Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 5:23 am

      we beat 3 of the 6 teams in ur so called Big League…big guy…just admit it that Holmdel would have taken u behind the bleachers and defloured u

  15. LMAO said, on November 23, 2010 at 11:22 pm

    It is easier to go 23 – 0 in Holmdels division than it is to go12-11 in A-NORTH
    PUH-LEASE you won two games in the last minutes against teams with losing records.
    Red Bank Regional took you into OT and you beat them 1-0 the first time, they didn’t even qualify for the tournament and you struggled….your schedule looks like a Rec Team. So calm down there bulldog!

    You were big fish in a little pond. CBA plays in the big leagues.

    • Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 5:21 am

      ..You went into OT with Mid South(cough Holmdel beat them 3-0)…idiot…and everyone who is saying this bs about a little pond…Holmdel didnt choose who was in its division…either way they dominated it….and the 4 teams they played from the “BIG LEAGUES”” Middletown North Middletown South, HOWELL, and TRN…Middletown north they destroyed 5-1…Middle south who CBA WENT INTO OVERTIME WITH 3-0…Howell 3-2 (bullshit penalty shot whould have been 3-1)….and Completely outplayed TRN….shut the fuck up CBA and swallow ur private school i pay unessacary amounts of money to go to highschool pride…U were all scared to play us…thats why Tim west was contantly begging connor mckenzie on facebook to please beat us…u guys would have got ur asses handed to u on a platter with a side of Tim west’s Jerry curls….Ur all just a bunch of sour pusses 🙂 the only rings ull ever have r on the telephone 😉

      • Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 5:27 am

        and did u just say “Puh-lease”?….u def go to CBA

  16. Congratulations said, on November 23, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    CBA and Holmdel are very good teams. Drop it. It will never be determined.

  17. The Man said, on November 23, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    Just wondering when the allshore, division, and county teams will be posted?

    • mattmanley said, on November 24, 2010 at 12:54 am

      I’m working on All-Shore stuff now and I’m hoping to have them out soon, although Thanksgiving slows it up a bit. Tuesday/Wednesday maybe?

  18. johhny said, on November 24, 2010 at 12:30 am

    Holmdel’s real self is showed here with these comments lol

    • Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 5:30 am

      damn right…attitude of a champion…u kno what thats like?…i think not,..suck my ring

  19. AR JVAL said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:06 am

    Matt i no where u live. ill kick u in the nuts. Holmdel > CBA

    • mattmanley said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:12 am

      How bout instead you round up both teams and play in the front yard. If Holmdel wins, you may kick me, but not in the nuts. I will retaliate if my boys are harmed.

    • mattmanley said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:17 am

      Actually, I could even make the case that Toms River North should be ranked ahead of Holmdel. TRN beat them head-to-head, reached the SCT final and lost to the eventual Group IV champs on a goal with two seconds left in regulation. But because the whole body of work counts, I won’t go there.

  20. AR JVAL said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:12 am

    Johhny Holmdel’s real self showed when they won the state championship.

  21. AR JVAL said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:17 am

    Matt will you get my picture in the paper after we win?=]

    • mattmanley said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:19 am

      If by “paper” you mean the APP, I don’t think I can help you. I’m pretty sure I’m not allowed in the building.

  22. AR JVAL said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:27 am

    You are actually thinking of making the case of TRN? lol im definately kicking in the nutsack. AND ITS GONA HURT.

    • mattmanley said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:39 am

      I’ve already made the case for TRN, but ranking them No. 2 not something I seriously considered once Holmdel won the Group title. Had they lost, I might have ranked Holmdel No. 4, but the win over Chatham is an impressive one and while the Toms Rivers played more good teams, they didn’t beat all of them like CBA did. I can make the case for a lot of things that are crazier than TRN being ranked No. 2, like the Jets being the best team in the NFL, for instance. BTW, if you kick me where you say you’ll kick me, you will break at least one toe.

  23. AR JVAL said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:43 am

    NY JETS are the best team like holmdel. Im not gonna break any toes because there’s nothing there to kick.=p

  24. Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:51 am

    ARE YOU PEOPLE SERIOUS?…..every single person at the TRN vs Holmdel game knows that TRN was outplayed…hands down…no question….TRN WAS NOT THE BETTER TEAM….so the fact that u are even thinking about putting them in front of Holmdel is absurd….USA beat Spain…is USA a better team then spain and shud be world cup champs?….NO….get out of here any Holmdel haters, Metzger is the whole team?……the team had 83 goals…metzger had 16….that still leaves 67 goals…and castiglia and bond had 16 and 14 goals to their name…along with Centineo who had 15 assists to equal dan metzgers…..Holmdel is a great team with 15+ great players…Metzger happens to be the brightest shining star in the sky among multiple stars….get out of here with this TRN garbage…Holmdel has outplayed every single one of their opponents…and CBA would have been next on the list…villani v.s metzger would have been a battle, hicks and sawaged…the 2 15 goal scorers up front for holmdel rivaled with a solid CBA defense….and Loeffler v.s Centineo…Rishi Desai and Casey Ogorman would shut Tim West down and wud fuck his day up….Holmdel is #1 in the shore…..CBA didnt put up where it mattered…THE STATE TOURNAMENT….Holmdel on the other hand lost a shore conference quarterfinal…which if u really are honest with yourself means nothing but bragging rights in monmouth county….To win a state tournament against a 16 TIME CHAMPION….get out of here CBA…Matt Manley, you are crazy if u put holmdel anywhere else but #1

    • mattmanley said, on November 24, 2010 at 2:00 am

      You know what’s crazy? The excessive use of ellipses. I wasn’t considering ranking TRN ahead of Holmdel, only making a case. There’s a clear difference.

      Jon I gotta ban you. I just ask that you not use homophobic language and you did not seem to heed that. You gotta calm down. I don’t think everyone else needs to “get over” anything.

      • mattmanley said, on November 24, 2010 at 2:04 am

        I have not seen that movie, but I have in fact seen the movie Hoosiers with Gene Hackman. And, I don’t know what your point would be had I not seen the movie of which you speak. Also, it’s utmost, not upmost, for future reference.

      • Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 5:15 am

        Aso, its stop being a smart ass and correcting mispelled words and read the comment….Holmdel deserves #1…but go ahead put the Colts on top…no team will ever have what the Hornets had this year…83 goals hahaha get out of here….EVERYONE WHO HATES ON HOLMDEL CAN SUCK OUR BIG SHINY RINGS

    • bill said, on November 24, 2010 at 7:37 pm

      even the holmdel coach said that they were the lesser team when they lost to TRN, so i don’t really know what you’re talking about Jon

      • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:37 am

        …hes not gonna get on the mic and say we were the better team… if u read the article billy boy you will see that everyone including matt manley says “sometimes the better team doesnt win” u a goon

  25. AR JVAL said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:56 am

    I can stop the CBA attack with my dick with ease.

  26. Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:58 am

    and not to mention polished off CHATHAM…Holmdel #1 hands down…get over it

  27. Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 2:00 am

    AND I WILL SAY IT WITH THE UPMOST SERIOUSNESS…MATT MANLEY IF YOU HONESTLY DONT PUT HOLMDEL(STATE CHAMPS) AS #1 and CBA(SHORE CONFERENCE CHAMPS WOOT WOOT!!) YOU ARE CRAZY…have you ever seen the movie HOUSIERS?…my point exactly

  28. AR JVAL said, on November 24, 2010 at 2:05 am

    Matt leave jon alone hes speaking his mind.

    • mattmanley said, on November 24, 2010 at 2:09 am

      So was I. If Jon wants to dish it out, I’m sure he can take it. He’s a big boy, I’m sure.

  29. AR JVAL said, on November 24, 2010 at 2:11 am

    Matt stop drinking your Haterade. If u ban jon ill find you and stick our state championship plaque up your pooper.

    • mattmanley said, on November 24, 2010 at 2:17 am

      Alright, you know what? You guys can continue to vent. I won’t get in the way anymore. I’ve said what I need to say, so if you feel like you need to say more, go right ahead. All threats toward anyone – empty or not – or posts with homophobic language will be censored, so a filter would be a good idea if you’re trying to make your point.

  30. Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 2:20 am

    Centineo would come up SHORT, you could paint Casey ORANGE because Tim West would use him like a cone and Rich Loeffler, Villani and Hicks would make Rishi look like the kid in the shitter in Slum Dog Millionaire.
    So lets be serious there hater, get a life, be happy you won that insignificant division and now its time to bring your pathetic basketball team to CBA and watch them trash you too.
    There is a reason it’s called A-North because “A” is the best grade you can get. Now stop with your pathetic rants :because THE MAN – MATT MANLEY HAS SPOKEN CBA #1

    • Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 4:17 am

      gotta be timothy west…yo if ur looking for a job… my hand is gonna get pretty heavy within the next few weeks…i need someone to rest it on..and perhaps spit shine it for me…hope ur shore conference champ sweatshirt keep u warm :X
      focker out

  31. AR said, on November 24, 2010 at 2:33 am

    WHO CARES ABOUT BASKETBALL?LOL YOU GUYS ARE #1 BECAUSE YOU WERE GIVING MATT HANDYS AND BJS AT UR GAMES.

  32. JVALL said, on November 24, 2010 at 2:45 am

    HAHAHAHA …. JUST RANK US LAST….. HONESTLY

  33. AR said, on November 24, 2010 at 2:53 am

    Matt likes the attention we’re giving him.=p

  34. 123 said, on November 24, 2010 at 3:22 am

    HAHAHA we are class “A” too! HOW DOES IT FEEL TO NOT GET A RING!? damn ill wear that thing with pride. HOLMDEL: STATE CHAMPS! That RING is gonna be so nice. Maybe ill let you CBA kids kiss it one day. We can set up a date and ill show you what it looks like.

  35. CHAMPS said, on November 24, 2010 at 3:26 am

    WE WIN

  36. soccer said, on November 24, 2010 at 3:31 am

    HAHAHA you can rank Holmdel wherever you want, cause in the end… CBA is a bunch of jealous boys and the HOLMDEL HORNETS are STATE CHAMPIONS. do you think we care where you rank us… you guys can take the better rank but HOLMDEL WILL TAKE THOSE CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS!

  37. CHAMPS said, on November 24, 2010 at 3:35 am

    ok, so metzger is the whole team? good one, considering castiglia tied him with 16 goals, while sophomore bond scores 13. And if you actually went to the games that we scored 1 goal in the last minutes, we dominated throughout with a shot total of probably 40-15 between the 2 games. Having said that, sorry cba but rishi would wreck all of your shit along with o’gorman. the bottom line is that everyone knows what the state is, and nobody rele cares about the SCT. at the end of the day we are wearing the rings and your getting knocked out and blowing a 2-0 lead. choke city, population CBA. oh yeah, and imagine we had Sean Davis (the number one rucruit in NJ to not go pro out of high school)…that 22-1 record would have been 20-somthing and 0…c mon just give it up already. By the transitive property of Chatham beating Delbarton, and Delbarton beating CBA, and Holmdel beating Chatman shows that Holmdel here is the strongest and most consistant team. I mean how cant you call the team consistant wen they go 16-0 and end with a 22-1 record. and to top it off….. STATE CHAMPIONS!! maybe next year guys.

  38. lol said, on November 24, 2010 at 3:40 am

    DAN METZGER WILL SHIT ON YOUR WHOLE TEAM

  39. lol said, on November 24, 2010 at 3:55 am

    ^ not saying he is the whole holmdel team, but yeah metzger is a great player, and to add him with another group of great players will only help the team out.

  40. I LOVE RINGS said, on November 24, 2010 at 4:30 am

    Ok enough of this talk. There is no way Tim West would be able to get by the big OG in the back kid is the most overrated player in the shore. You talk to any of his teammates when he isnt around and they all say he isnt good. They all say how hicks and villani do all the work because they are actually good players and he just taps the ball in the net. He better find a nice pad for his seat on the bench because he will not step over the line to get on to the playing field next year. Btw the orange joke was real creative..not

  41. nick said, on November 24, 2010 at 4:33 am

    MAtt Manley! When you gave the preview for the Chatham .vs. Holmdel game I told you you should have picked Holmdel to win. Of course you chose against them and they went out and proved you wrong. Now here we are talking about who should be ranked #1 in the Shore and you are going to give it to CBA. I understand they won the shore conference and they were in a tougher division, but at the end of the day its all about the “W”. Holmdel are State Champions! Yes the terminology is State Champions, not sectional, or dvisional, or shore champs, but State Champs meaning champion of the entire State Group 3.

    I’m not taking anything away from CBA, they are a great team also, but a lot is to be said when a team is up 2-0 and falls apart to lose the game. That says a lot about the Poise, the character, and WILL of the team to win.

    Holmdel has never blown a lead and has rarely played from behind, but on that night against Chatham they found themselves down 1-0 going into halftime. Chatham being one of the top teams in the State, having 19 shutouts, and not allowing a single postseason goal, would be the most adversity any team would have to face to put together a comeback Win. Holmdel buckled down and came together to put the pressure on the entire second half in an effort which got them 2 goals and a Victory on the biggest stage in Highschool Sports. Say what you want about CBA having a tough schedule and winning the Shore, but what makes a team truly great is when they can rise to the occasion on the biggest stage in the most meaningful moments and that is what Holmdel showed us they could do! CBA did not! If this does not persuade you to rank Holmdel #1 then I’m afraid to think that you must be bias. Holmdel #1 I’m out!

  42. AR said, on November 24, 2010 at 11:21 am

    LETS GO!

  43. AR said, on November 24, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Chatham would shit on CBA’s life

  44. WOW said, on November 24, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    MATT MANLEY. GET YOUR SHIT STRAIGHT. All you can talk about is the TRN game and how CBA beat them 3-0. Sick job CBA you won 3-0 and you rose to the occasion IN THE WRONG GAME. Yeah so Holmdel lost, a 16-0 team playing with pressure and was probably going to lose at some point. I think Holmdel would have rathered their first loss in the STC tournament than in the state tournament if you ask me. And even the coach admitted that if they played with us for 80 minutes holmdel would have won 4-0. It was just one of those game that didnt go their way. But after that, Holmdel did not lose a game, and went the rest of the way to become State Champions. You keep bringing up how TRN beat Holmdel and how CBA beat TRN, so you get this idea that CBA would beat Holmdel. How about you bring up the Chatham team who beat Delbarton, and then Delbarton beating CBA, and then HOLMDEL BEATING CHATHAM DOWN 1-0 IN THE STATE FINALS. If you ask me, i think that you have something for CBA, but its alright. Holmdels got the rings.

  45. Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    You talk an awful lot of shit douche bag. About 7 references to your hand being tired obviously from your personal substitute for a girlfriend.
    As to Tim West, his accomplishments speak for them selves and so does his scholarships. And Hicks and Villani have ZERO respect for any of the players on Holmdel including Metzger, who they guaranteed they would SHUT DOWN Where you going to college there, big dick?
    You have been a bag of pussies since you were little kids, now your just big pussies. You got lucky being in A LITTLE POND.
    And no not Tim West here, he’s busy packing his bags to play D-1, this is someone that knows you personally, very well JON>>>>>

    • Jon said, on November 24, 2010 at 7:11 pm

      Lafayette is where Im going…. a bag of pussies?….hahaha dude…calm down..ur just angry to end the season *empty handed*(thats a ring joke)….give respect where respect is due…CBA u were a great team but wayyyyyy to cocky…HAHA if you know me so well whats my name bro…stop running ur mouth about this little pond bs….state champions speaks for itself and if u have anything to say about it u can talk to the stones on my ring

  46. mike said, on November 24, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Stop already assholes. You will never know who would win!

  47. Matt Sawagged said, on November 24, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    Matt manley id fuck ur shit up u pussy

  48. this guy said, on November 24, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    I hope you all know that CBA does not really care at all who gets ranked number 1 honestly just give it to holmdel if that is what makes them sleep at night. The fact that CBA has everybody coming back plus scotty will make them a rediculous team and nobody on the team cares about rankings, which will make them even better next year

    • Holmdel sucks said, on November 25, 2010 at 1:36 am

      EXACTLY

  49. JVALL said, on November 24, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    u got a vagina

  50. To Matt Manley said, on November 24, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Matt,

    Great job all year And great way to end the season. As you can see, the WHORENETS are not the classiest group.
    Keep up the good work and keep telling the truth. Apparently the truth hurts when you’re in second place.

  51. Nick said, on November 24, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    You suck Manley!!! You need to start looking into another career. You just ranked a shore conference champ over a state champ. You are a fucking moron! Anyone that knows anything about sports knows its all about the “W” but i guess you must’ve have missed the memo.

    • Nick said, on November 25, 2010 at 12:49 am

      He ranked them ahead of you in the Shore Conference ASSHOLE, not the State……
      Now lick his balls and say your sorry before he beats your ass.

      • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:39 am

        dumb ass^ the second comment…….He ranked the shore conference champs (CBA) over a State championship team (Holmdel)…u misread the comment…goober

  52. 123 said, on November 24, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    yeah tim west is amazing…..HAHAH fuck that. hes a lazy kid and is not good

    • 123 said, on November 24, 2010 at 7:50 pm

      Suck Tim Wests ball sack, if you can catch him. He’s probably with your sister right now

      • love you said, on November 24, 2010 at 7:52 pm

        Jealous Jealous Jealous Jealous Jealous Jealous Jealous of the “lazy kid” HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
        CBA#1 #1 #1 #1

      • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:41 am

        actually love u…CBA fell short of the real #1….State champs,….Holmdel= #5 in state according to ESPN (THE WORLD WIDE LEADER IN SPORTS)…..so Matthew Manley a New Jersey native who runs a tinker toy website ranked u ahead of us..I rather be ahead in ESPN’s eyes…sit down shut up

  53. AR said, on November 24, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    CBA stop hugging matt’s nutsack. CBA<Delbarthon<Chatham<Holmdel

  54. innocent bystander said, on November 24, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Why are you Holmdel people even wasting your time. You proved to everyone you are the class of the Shore Conference. Its quite obvious that a certain group of people cant get over the fact that a small town team achieved alot more than a school that draws from perhaps a 30 mile radius (give or take). Walk off into the sunset with your State Championship. You should be proud. You earned the right to be called State Champs!!! What does a #1 ranking from a local media page really mean?????

  55. Nick said, on November 24, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    ESPN TOP 10 STATE RANKINGS

    New Jersey:
    1. St. Benedict’s (20-2-0*)
    2. St. Augustine (25-1-0*)
    3. Pingry (18-2-1)
    4. Seton Hall Prep (18-0-3*)
    ***5. Holmdel (22-1-0*)***
    6. Cliffside Park (24-1-0*)
    7. Chatham (22-2-1*)
    8. Montville (24-2-0*)
    9. Delbarton (18-2-4*)
    10. Don Bosco Prep (15-1-3*)

    So in Conclusion, no gives a fuck what a nobody like Matt Manley thinks of the rankings. You run some little rinky dink website that has no clout or bearing on what truly matters. ESPN the worldwide leader in sports ranks Holmdel #5 in the STATE. CBA is not even on the list. Take a hike CBA you can have Matt Manley…well take the rest of the world.

    • Nick said, on November 25, 2010 at 12:47 am

      The other teams must be embarrassed that a shit team like Holmdel, bullshitted their way in the list by knocking off, WHO….???
      Get this straight, in a tough conference you would SUCK!

      And this has nothing to do with CBA, you just won because you were the best of the worst!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:43 am

        you sound like an idiot second comment….just stfu and give credit where credit is due…..i think ESPN got it right…and if you dont hink the world wide leader in sports is correct than maybe u shud start ur own company and do ur own rankings cause otherwise u need to shutchya muth

  56. AR said, on November 24, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    Hey ESPN also ranks Holmdel #33 in country. Is CBA ranked? oh i guess not.

    http://rise.espn.go.com/boys-soccer/team-rankings/fall-2010-rankings/Fall-2010.aspx?pursuit=BoysSoccer

    link^ Check and Mate MR. MANNLEY

  57. LMAO said, on November 24, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    HOLMDEL #5 IN THE STATE AND #33 IN THE COUNTRY!! sorry CBA but ur not ranked. And for tim west..with your sisters??? you honestly think that curly headed goof-ball gets play?? c’ mon now. His own teammates dont even like the kid.

  58. TRN said, on November 24, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    Your all wasting your time over some stupid rankings if holmdel thinks they should be number one then think that but its not going to change. Matt Manley is a stud reporter for the area he doesnt know that much of other teams. Look you can make a point for both teams… if you think CBA doesnt deserve it because they lost to delbarton and chatham beat delbarton and then holmdel beat chatham well think that but hears my case for CBA… They won the SCT didn’t lose to one Shore team and holmdel lost to Toms River North who lost to Brick Memorial a team that barely won a game..Now compare losing to brick mem. compared to losing to delbarton.. Lets face it CBA had a tougher schedule thats where there getting the top rank from. One last thing show some respect to the website i dont care who you are learn your manners.. happy holidays

    • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:47 am

      Holmdel lost 1 game all season…CBA lost 2….argue what u want about tougher teams, sports are ALL ABOUT WINNING…and CBA didnt do that when the stakes were highest..Holmdel slipped up against a team they were better than(TRN) and outplayed them… and rallied back to not lose another game the rest of the season/post season….including being 1-0 down to Chatham a very good team and staying composed and winning on the championship level….CBA is a great team but sports arent about who is better on paper….its about who put their money where their mouth was..and Holmdel did that CBA didnt..thats the bottom line

  59. AR said, on November 24, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    #33

  60. Holmdel is 33 in the country said, on November 24, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Holmdel is 33 in the country out of 50 teams..i didnt happen to see CBA on there? So yeah, their “tough schedual” really helped them out on those rankings. ESPN would have put their “tough schedule” into effect while doing these ranking, but they didnt. And for the last time, the Tomes River North coach admitted that holmdel was better, and would have won 4-0 if they played the whole 80 minutes attacking. The 16-0 team had a target on their back, and it was just time for them to lose…better getting that one loss then, than in the State Tournament right?? I think so, i mean i would rather get the ring. Thats what its all about. 33 in the country. SOOO SAR.

  61. Holmdel 33 Sucks said, on November 24, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    Obviously you don’t have the ability to attack for 10 minutes or you wouldn’t have risked taking games to the last 6 minutes to score. Or have to go into OT with Red Bank, a second rate team.
    We would have made you shit yourselves. Now go back to your little mini mansions assholes, take your little plastic ring, give it to your boyfriend, because you won’t win 4 games next year when Thompsen Hicks and Villani put on a clinic for the whole State in a REAL DIVISION.
    SUCK IT HOLMDEL but do have a Happy Thanksgiving because it will be your last happy one for a LONG TIME!

    • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:49 am

      YOU WENT INTO OT WITH MIDDLETOWN SOUTH!!!! STFU ABOUT THE RBR SHIT AND THE TEAM U WENT INTO OT WITH HOLMDEL BEAT 3-0…SHUT UP!!! THANK YOU

      • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:50 am

        AND THE RING ISNT PLASTIC…..ITS STEERLING SILVER WITH BEAUTIFUL STONES W/ A FEW DIAMONDS….SO SH SH SH SHUT UR MOUTH

  62. Hey Haters said, on November 24, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    Watch the papers and see how many Holmdicks get All Shore, All State and even All American.

    You think your jealous NOW…just wait…

    • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:51 am

      Tim West makes all american……i guess that means i cud fly over seas and play for Real Madrid and start over Ronaldo

  63. Disgusted said, on November 25, 2010 at 12:41 am

    I have never seen such poor sportsmanship or whining as i have this year . Holmdel ANd CBA add coltsneck spoiled boys ! can’t get what you want this time .Try asking Daddy to buy it for you or better yet lets have a CBA vs Holmdel in a family bidding war for # 1 ranking .If we could all recruit and use the college sized HS tuition to do it we could all be #1 .The Number 1 team should be the team who worked with the talent that walked thru there districts door and developed into a champion with hard TEAM work . Be Thankful your standing up straight .

    • MINICENTINEO said, on November 25, 2010 at 1:35 am

      Maybe # 1 should be the team that won the Shore Conference and the whiners from Holmdel should shut up and be happy they were in an easy division in the State. They should also be thankful that metzger showed up or you would have been about 9-7

      • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:53 am

        ur right….cause the first 5 games the hornets didnt have metzger the scored 28 goals and let up one….Metzger is a great player but get that shit out of here…Holmdel is a A+ team without him…with him is just the cherry on top

  64. Enough said, on November 25, 2010 at 12:42 am

    I think what you are missing is Matt Manley ranked the teams in the Shore Conference which has head to head comparisons, not the State rankings. Based on the comparisons of many identical teams played, he made the conclusion in the Shore Conference that CBA being undefeated in the SHORE CONFERENCE has a higher rank.
    Matt Manley has heaped plenty of praise on Holmdel throughout the season and has glorified Holmdels State Championship.
    Based on the the immaturity level and personal assaults on Matt, I have a feeling he will not be showing the same love next year. As to your insults to certain players, exceptional players are training, not wasting their time reading negative and immature slights posted by second rate players. Knowing both Metzger and West personally I am pretty sure neither care what you think of them.
    Matt, I have no affiliation with either school. As a matter of fact you did not show my sons team much love, but I totally appreciated your coverage of the conference and believe that your assessments have been exceedingly fair. Matt, keep up the good work.

  65. Holmdel is 33 in the country said, on November 25, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Yeah plastic ring that was a good one. Dont be mad b.c. you didnt get one. And mini mansions?? thats an oxymoron dumbass, lol. now Holmdel gets the better education and the rings. Damn it just keeps piling on for you guys. Have a fun rest of the year blowin eachother at CBGay…maybe you guys can come look at the rings. Idk they will be on display soon and it cost $5 to look at it, $20 to touch it, and $100 to watch the Holmdel player put them on. Just let me know when your free.

    • MINICENTINEO said, on November 25, 2010 at 12:59 am

      Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. It will be your last

      • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:58 am

        creative name^^..the player ur making fun of was one the best pound for pound players who had 7 goals 15 assists on the year and shit on players 3 times his size…kid is my teammate and worked his ass off this year…but its fine…make fun of the kid lol

      • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:59 am

        Not to mention he is deciding between Rhode Island and Caldwell and will be playing in college next year at 5’4

  66. AR said, on November 25, 2010 at 1:17 am

    #33=]

    • MINICENTINEO said, on November 25, 2010 at 1:32 am

      #2 is the real number….TRN should actually be ahead of you.

      • AR said, on November 25, 2010 at 1:35 am

        you guys choke on dick and in games…#33

  67. AR - said, on November 25, 2010 at 1:52 am

    Choked on TRN DICK DIDN”T YOU!!

    • AR - said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:10 am

      Whats AR stand for ASSHOLE RETARD
      Another Reject, Asian Rectum, Asbergers Representative
      Ass Receiver

      • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 3:01 am

        creative names^…hes a state champ thats all that matters

  68. AR - said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:06 am

    Better floss and get some of that TRN dick out of your mouth.
    You probably aren’t even on the team, douche
    Don’t you have to be at your foster home for the holiday or something

  69. AR from TRN said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:17 am

    We stuffed you didn’t we.
    How did that feel? Played one good team and you lost.

    • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 3:00 am

      u werent a good team…u pulled one out of your ass…play holmdel again and see what wud happen…lol…stop acting like ur better then them….usa beat spain….spain is still world cup champs…sit down shut up

      • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 3:03 am

        and i guess Howell isnt a good team..and Chatham was awful huh?
        yeah and Hightstown was terrible….give respect where repect is due…stop bitching tht u didnt win ANYTHING

  70. Happy Thanksgiving Shore Conference! said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:38 am

    Ha

  71. truth said, on November 25, 2010 at 2:40 am

    Your argument is that we played a close game with rbr… cba beat midd south who is just awful 1-0 in ot so that argument is just a joke. Teams can have bad days. The truth is that when these kids grow up im sure that they would much rather say they were state champs then shore conference champs.

    • AR said, on November 25, 2010 at 3:03 am

      ur smart

      • Jon said, on November 25, 2010 at 3:05 am

        INDEED

    • Public forum said, on November 25, 2010 at 3:33 am

      I know this is a soccer forum but it is also a public forum . Seriously lacking in your so called upper class education is a public speaking class that you teaches how to get your point across without foul vulgar language. Try using that language when representing your college team and you will not be there very long . Have some self respect .

      • AR said, on November 25, 2010 at 3:34 am

        STOP BEING A VAGINA

      • Public Forum said, on November 25, 2010 at 12:05 pm

        Nice comment. Obviously Mr. AR missed that class at his upscale Holmdel school.
        Although we all realize he does not speak for nor represent the whole school and I am sure players like Marino, Metzger and the Castiglias would be embarrassed if they wasted their time reading this. He thinks he is trashing CBA and TRN and all he has done is trash Holmdel, regardless of what they won or didn’t win or who ranked them where.

  72. AR said, on November 25, 2010 at 3:08 am

    Jon ur smart too

  73. lol said, on November 25, 2010 at 11:07 am

    lol honestly stop bitching b.c. ur not getting a ring, like youre obviously getting mad b.c. u keep answering. at the end of the day Holmdel is wearing the rings while being ranked 5 in NJ and 33 in the country.

  74. Hoops Fan said, on November 26, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    Hey Everyone
    WHO CARES??????????????????? SEASON IS OVER AND HOOPS IS STARTING…BOTH TEAMS HAD A GREAT YEAR BUT ITS OVER…SO LETS MOVE ON

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